Whitty John Charles

Whitty John Charles

Male 1811 - 1896

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  • Born  20 Mar 1811  Co. Clare?, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Died  19 Oct 1896  Tunbridge Wells Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I39  My Genealogy
    Last Modified  4 Sep 2013 

    Father  Whitty Archdeacon John,   b. 1779, Kilrush Co Clare Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1864, Bristol Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  Palmer Eleanor Hariett,   b. 1781,   d. 1858, Kilrush Co Clare Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  1803  Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F227  Group Sheet

    Family  Brown Louisa,   b. 1824, Bengal, India Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Dec 1901, Ticehurst, Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  1843  Houghton, New South Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    >1. Whitty Henry Tarlton,   b. 4 Jul 1847, Tarramia, New South Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Mar 1912, Wadhurst, Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Whitty Charles Dowling,   d. 1912
     3. Whitty Herbert George Elphinstone
     4. Whitty Harold Palmer Whitty
     5. Whitty Ellen,   b. 1843
     6. Whitty Louisa
     7. Whitty Henry,   b. Yes, date unknown
     8. Whitty Florence,   b. 1849
     9. Whitty Mary,   b. 1854,   d. 1881
     10. Whitty Edith
     11. Whitty Sophia
    Last Modified  6 Dec 2012 
    Family ID  F12  Group Sheet

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - 20 Mar 1811 - Co. Clare?, Ireland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 1843 - Houghton, New South Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 19 Oct 1896 - Tunbridge Wells Link to Google Earth
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    Blowering Station, NSW, Australia
    Blowering Station, NSW, Australia
    This aerial photo of Blowring Station is copied from the comprehensive website on the history of Blowering Valley, created by John Stephenson: http://www.blowering.com/index.html
    1896 Probate record for John Charles Whitty
    1896 Probate record for John Charles Whitty
    1841 NSW Register of Land Grants and Leases, record of John Charles Whitty buying a large allotment of land for one farthing in the County of Murray
    1841 NSW Register of Land Grants and Leases, record of John Charles Whitty buying a large allotment of land for one farthing in the County of Murray
    '...being the 6th allotment purchased by the said John Charles Whitty...with a further fact of the pension of 100 sterling authorised for him as a late liuetenant in the Honourable East India Company's Militia...annual rent one farthing forever' The land was granted by Sir George Gipps
    1841 NSW Register of Land Grants and Leases, record of John Charles Whitty buying a 4th allotment of land for one farthing from Sir George Gipps in Uffington parish, Clarence Town, Durham County
    1841 NSW Register of Land Grants and Leases, record of John Charles Whitty buying a 4th allotment of land for one farthing from Sir George Gipps in Uffington parish, Clarence Town, Durham County
    1881 Census for John Charles and Louisa Whitty who were living in Norfolk
    1881 Census for John Charles and Louisa Whitty who were living in Norfolk
    Different uniforms of the Madras Army c.1830
    Different uniforms of the Madras Army c.1830
    1. Madras Horse Artillery. 2. Madras Light Cavalry. 3. Madras Rifle Corps. 4. Madras Pioneers. 5. Madras Native Infantry. 6. Foot Artillery. From Left to Right
    Tumut, NSW
    Tumut, NSW
    agricultural land nr Tumut, NSW today
    agricultural land nr Tumut, NSW today
    Bush farm, Victoria, Australia
    Bush farm, Victoria, Australia
    painting by HL van den Houten 1876
    from Art Gallery NSW website.
    John's farms were in the south of NSW close to the border with Victoria state.
    Rounding up a straggler
    Rounding up a straggler
    painted by Frank Mahony 1889 in Australia.
    Frank Mahony was born in Melbourne and studied in Sydney at the NSW Academy of Art.
    from the Art Gallery NSW website
    Headstone for John Charles and Louisa at the Municipal Cemetery in Tunbridge Wells
    Headstone for John Charles and Louisa at the Municipal Cemetery in Tunbridge Wells
    photo courtesy of the Gravestone Photographic Resource project
    Tarramia Homestead, the only known photos from a family album
    Tarramia Homestead, the only known photos from a family album
    golf at Tarramia
    golf at Tarramia
    players unknown, from Whitty family photos

  • Notes 
    • John Charles was an energetic and determined man, born the son of a priest, the eldest of 5 children, he left his native Ireland to seek his fortune in India and then Australia.
      He worked as a soldier for the East India Company in Madras, then moved to New South Wales from where he bought large tracts of land, raised sheep and sold horses to the Indian Army, and built up a serious agricultural holding before retiring to Bristol and Tonbridge Wells.

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      He successfully applied for a cadetship with the Honourable East India Comapny (HEIC) in 1826-7 but had left the HEIC as a Lieutenant in the Madras Army by 1840 when he acquired the first of three leases on adjoining properties in the Tumut area of New South Wales (about 250 miles south west of Sydney in the Riverina and the foothills of the Snowy Mountains).

      In 1836 a "Lieut. Whitty 7th N.I. has passed the prescribed examination in the Hindustance language as an adjutant of the Native Infantry."
      source: p.190 ?The Asiatic Journal, Sept ? Dec 1836? (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HrZAAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA259&lpg=RA1-PA259&dq=John+whitty+madras&source=bl&ots=RBOnTi2Z6P&sig=uVdHycqsHESpe08xuMc_BEuxsmg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=A8UiT6HqDoOi8gP9w-irBg&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=John%20whitty%20madras&f=false

      This is followed in the same year by an application for furlough to New South Wales and Van Deimans Land by a 'Lieut. J.C.Whitty of the 7th N.I.' which shows that he must have used this leave to look for land in Australia, aged just 25 yrs old.
      Source: p. 259 Ibid (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HrZAAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA259&lpg=RA1-PA259&dq=John+whitty+madras&source=bl&ots=RBOnTi2Z6P&sig=uVdHycqsHESpe08xuMc_BEuxsmg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=A8UiT6HqDoOi8gP9w-irBg&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=John%20whitty%20madras&f=false)

      It also shows he was not afraid of adventure, because moving to Australia, riding out into the outback and looking at land with no idea of what he would find must have required a good deal of courage.

      In 1840 John Charles purchased the lease of Blowering (25,600 acres), Estimated Grazing Capabilities 640 cattle.
      He subsequently also acquired leases on; Lacmalac (12,800 acres) Estimated Grazing Capabilities of 5,500 sheep, and Billybong(62,000) acres, estimated Grazing Capabilities of 1,000 cattle and 6,000 sheep.

      In 1843 John Charles married Louisa Brown at Paterson in the Hunter Valley, near Maitland, NSW. In 1843 his daughter Ellen and in 1847 his son Henry Tarlton were reported in the Sydney Morning Herald as being born at Blowering. Seven of John Charles and Louisa's 11 children are registered as being born in Australia between 1843 and 1857 (Ellen, Louisa, Henry, Florence, Mary, Edith and Charles). In 1854 John Charles sold an interest in Blowering to his brother-in-law, Edward George Brown, who subsequently went into partnership with Hamlyn Lavicount Harris, the brother of Mary Hamlyn Harris.

      In 1861, John Charles Whitty purchased land in Cotham (a rapidly expanding middle class suburb of Bristol in the mid-late 19th century) and he and Louisa lived at Cotham Lodge where Henry's paternal grandfather, John Whitty, Archdeacon of Kilfenora Cathedral in Co Clare, Ireland, died in 1864, from where Henry's eldest sister Ellen, married Arthur Brown in 1864, and his sister Louisa married Robert Gabbett Parker (the Parkers were an Anglo-Irish family from Co Clare) in 1868, and where Henry's three youngest siblings (Herbert, Harold and Sophia) were born 1861-5.

      Source: notes of Mary Whitty

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      We should remember that John Charles Whitty, the son of Rev John Whitty, bought a lot of land in Australia. Where did he get the money from? Was it as a Captain of the Native Infantry in India? Or more probably was he independently wealthy? Rev John Whitty and his father Rev Edward Whitty were obviously landowners and not afraid of enforcing their landowning rights on the Catholic population round about them.

      There is one set of figures from the Tithe Applotment Books of 1824 which shows how much land people owned around Ballickmoyler . Rev John Whitty is a tenant on 53 acres, which have a yearly total value of 88. This makes him the second biggest tenant, and most people seem to rent 2 or 3 acres, but whether that made him very wealthy we don't know. The biggest landowner, one William Cooper esq. in 1824 had 230 acres worth a yearly value of 350. that sounds like proper wealth.
      source: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/Tithe_Applotement_Books_1824.htm

      The answer lies in the price at which he bought the land in Australia, which was basically nothing - 1 farthing per parcel of land, according to the documents you can see above, on the strength of John having a 100 pension from the East India Militia. It seems the attitude of Sir George Gipps who sold him the land was 'see what you can do with it'.

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      He is recorded as buying ?Blowering Station? farm near Tumut in NSW from Dr Benjamin Clayton in 1840, which was originally 25,600 acres, capability to graze 640 cattle, at which time he was called Captain John Whitty. There is a mention of ?Captain John Whitty? retiring from service with the 96th Foot in 1874 which might mean he kept his rank till then, or it was another John Whitty.
      source: http://www.blowering.com/clayton.html
      source: p. 642 the London Gazette, Feb 13th 1874. (http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/24065/pages/642/page.pdf )

      In Australia he seems to have had deep pockets because, "John Charles Whitty appears to be a man of great vision, strength and fore sight. Not only did he hold the Blowering lease - he is accredited with the leases & owner ship of other large tracts of land - namely ?Lacmalack?, estimated area 12,800 acres, Estimated Grazing Capabilities of 5,500 sheep - and ?Billybong?, estimated Area 62,000 acres, Estimated Grazing Capabilities of 1,000 cattle and 6,000 sheep."
      source: http://www.blowering.com/whitty.html

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      In the NSW Government Gazette of 1844, Vol 15, 1st Jan - 31st July, John Charles Whitty is one of those selected along with Henry Whitty to be a Justice of the Peace.

      source: http://www.unlockthepast.com.au/sites/default/files/samples/AU2100-1844s.pdf

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      A historical note on the area in NSW where he created his farms near the town of Corowa:

      The Corowa district was originally inhabited by the Bangerang people. Their tribal lands extended north to the Murrumbidgee River and along the Murray River from Howlong to Berrigan and south to Mansfield in Victoria. European settlements began to spring up in the area following the explorations and reports of Hume and Hovell, while another explorer, Charles Sturt, is considered the first white person to have acquired land.

      It is to the settlers, John Foord and John Crisp, that Corowa owes its existence. Foord took up land on the Victorian side of the river in 1850s and established the Wahgunyah Run. The boundaries extended from the Murray River to Black Dog and Indigo Creeks. He produced wheat and also became the flour miller, storekeeper, transporter, punt owner and bridge builder. In 1859 he purchased land on the New South Wales side and planned the township of North Wahgunyah, now known as Corowa.

      Corowa had a rapid population growth due to the discovery of gold in nearby Beechworth in 1852. Wahgunyah became a river port, and the district supplied meat and grain to the goldfields. The Rutherglen goldfield was discovered in 1859, and although short-lived, added further impetus to the growth of the town. Around 1862 a toll bridge was constructed (near the present bridge) and later demolished in 1894. The present iron, John Foord Bridge, was built in 1892.
      source:http://www.murrayriver.com.au/corowa/

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      Feb 7th 1861 National Archives hold a record of John buying the land in Cotham, Bristol:
      "Conveyance - James Evan Baillie to John Charles Whitty of land in Cotham by Alma Road i.e. Arch Field and Five Acres."
      source: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=002-6682&cid=-1#-1

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      1881 Census
      John Charles Whitty, age 70, Lieutenant Indian Army now retired, farmer 257 acres, employing 8 men and 2 boys, born Ireland. Lives with his wife Louisa Whitty age 57, born East Indies, at Bradsfield[?] Lodge, Old Buckenham, Norfolk.
      With them live daughter Jane Whitty, age 21, born Ireland, and son Harold Palmer Whitty, age 16, born Westbury-on-Trym Gloucestershire, and daughter Hilda Sophia Whitty, age 15, born Westbury-on-Trym.
      Also living with them are a governess and 3 domestic servants

      1891 Census
      John C Whitty, age 80, retired officer HEIC, born Ireland lives at 19 Brodwater Down, Frant, Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
      Living with him are daughters Mary E Whitty, age 38, born New South Wales, Edith Whitty, age 36, born NSW, grandson Noel I Whitty age 5, born NSW, and grandughter Verna M Mackay age 3, born India.
      Living with them are 4 domestic servants


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