1823 - 1904 (80 years)
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Name |
Ross John |
Birth |
4 Sep 1823 |
Fendum, Nr Tain, Rosshire |
Gender |
Male |
Death |
17 Mar 1904 |
Tain, Rosshire |
Person ID |
I261 |
My Genealogy |
Last Modified |
6 Nov 2023 |
Family |
MacKay Helen, b. 1833, Rogart, Sutherland d. 14 May 1888, Tain, Rosshire (Age 55 years) |
Marriage |
27 Jun 1857 |
Free Church in Rogart, Sutherland |
Children |
+ | 1. Ross Christina, b. 27 Jun 1858, Tain, Rosshire d. Aug 1930, Dornoch, Sutherland (Age 72 years) |
| 2. Ross George, b. 1860 |
| 3. Ross Donald, b. 1867 |
| 4. Ross William, b. 1865 |
| 5. Ross John, b. 1863 |
| 6. Ross Alexander, b. 1870 |
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Family ID |
F106 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
4 Nov 2023 |
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Photos
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| woodworking tools from 18th century
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| 'The Workshop'
"This is the joiner's shop, a fascinating place with shadowy corners, the bewitching fitments of a carpenter's bench, a crisp carpet of shavings for small feet to scuffle and struggle through, and in invigorating smell of pine chips in the air.
Here are made homely chairs and tables, clogs and pattens, yokes for milk pales, chests for bride-linen, cradles and innumerable other articles."
Raphael Tuck - Oilette - Scottish Life and Character Series. Tuck startd selling postcards in London in 1866. The oilette series started in 1903.
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| A procession down Tain High Street to mark Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee in 1897 from Tain museum website |
| 1857 Marriage record, John ross and Helen MacKay, Parish of Rogart
On 26th June, 1857, John Ross from Tain, aged 33, a House Carpenter, and Helen Kackay from Muir(?) Rogart, aged 29, a Dressmaker, were married.
John's parents are recorded as George Ross, Tenant (deceased) and Jane Ross, maiden name Murray.
Helen's parents are recorded as William MacKay, Merchant, and Christy MacKay, maiden name MacLeod.
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| 1823 birth record for John Ross Tain 4th Sept 1823. By which date George Ross at Fendum [Fendom is an area about 2 miles from Tain], had by his wife Jane Murray a son born to him lawfully begot and was baptised on the 7th day before the congregation named John. |
| 1891 census record for John Ross, House Carpenter and widower in Tain Living at Burnside Cottage in Hill st, Tain.
John is aged 64.
Living with him are his sons William, a watch maker & Donald an assistant ironmonger.
There is also a boarder called Peter Cramb and a servant called Margaret Fraser |
| 1871 census for John Ross and Helen and their family in Tain They live in Hill st in Tain.
John is a Carpenter aged 43, Helen his wife is 38
Christina is 12, George is 11, and John is 8, William 6, Donald 4, Alexander 1 |
| 1861 Census for John Ross and Helen and 2 children in Tain The live in Haffor [?] st in Tain.
John is a journeyman carpenter aged 35, Helen his wife is aged 29.
Daughter Christina is 2 and son George is aged 1 month |
| 1901 census for John Ross in Tain John is a widower, aged 77, a house carpenter and lives at Burnside [cottage] in Hill st, Tain.
His son Donald aged 34 lives with him, an ironmonger, and also a house keeper called Annie McGregor |
| Tain High St 1910 from the Tain and District Museum website |
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Notes |
- SUMMARY
John was born in the autumn of 1823 in the Eastern Highlands to George Ross a crofter, and Jane Murray. The birth was recorded in Tain, but George is recorded as living in Fendum, which is a couple of miles from Tain.
He didn't follow his father into agriculture, and instead learnt a trade, Carpentry.
In the summer of 1857 John married Helen MacKay in the parish of Rogart (near Tain). She was a dressmaker and daughter of a local grocer/farmer. They moved to the town of Tain, and brought up a family of 6, of whom the daughter Christina is the significant one to continue this family tree. The family home for at least 30 years was Burnside cottage in Hill st, Tain.
His wife Helen died in 1888 aged 55, and John spent the last 16 years of his life as a widower.
In the 1891 census he was living at Burnside Cottage in Tain with his two sons Donald a watchmaker and William an assistant ironmonger. They also have a boarder and a servant living with them.
He died in 1904 in Tain, aged 80.
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In 1747 R. Campbell described the work of a house carpenter as follows:
"The carpenter is employed in the wooden-work from the foundation to the top.... In brick-works he places bearers, where the chief weight of the building lies. He lays the joists, girders, and rafters in flooring, and when the outward case is built, he puts on the roof and prepares it for the slater... Strength is the chief of his study, and to dispose his work in such a manner as that what is designed for the support of a building may not, by its weight, overturn it".
In contrast, a joiner:
"...is employed in making doors, laying floors, preparing the ceiling for the plaisterer to nail his laths on; in dividing the house with partitions, and wainscoting the several apartments. As a joiner's work requires a nicer hand, and a greater taste in ornament, his business requries that he should be acquainted with geometry and mensuration."
source: http://www.londonlives.org/static/CarpentersCompany.jsp
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Birth record 1823:
Tain 4th Sept 1823. By which date George Ross at Fendum [Fendom is an area about 2 miles from Tain], had by his wife Jane Murray a son born to him lawfully begot and was baptised on the 7th day before the congregation named John.
1857 Marriage record, Parish of Rogart:
On 26th June, 1857, John Ross from Tain, aged 33, a House Carpenter, and Helen Kackay from Muir(?) Rogart, aged 29, a Dressmaker, were married.
John's parents are recorded as George Ross, Tenant (deceased) and Jane Ross, maiden name Murray.
Helen's parents are recorded as William MacKay, Merchant, and Christy MacKay, maiden name MacLeod.
1861 Census:
John Ross (born Tain, Rosshire) is 35 yrs old, occuption 'Carpenter (Journeyman)'. He lives with his wife Helen Ross (born Rogal Sutherland) agd 29 in Haffor(?) st in Tain. Also there are daughter Christina aged 2 and son George aged 1 month.
1871 Census:
John Ross (born Tain Rosshire) aged 43, occupation Carpenter, is living in Hill st, Tain with his wife Hellen (born Rogart, Sutherland) aged 38. their children are Christina 12, George 11, John 8, William 6, Donald 4, alexander 1.
1891 Census:
John Ross, aged 64, a widower and Carpenter (House), lives at Burnside Cottage in Hill st, Tain.
Also lliving with him are William his son aged 26, unmarried, a watchmaker; Donald his son aged 24 an assistant ironmonger, a male boarder who is an assistant watchmaker and female servant (she is a gentlemans servant so not a servant of the house, must be another boarder).
1901 census for John Ross in Tain
John is a widower, aged 77, a house carpenter and lives at Burnside [cottage] in Hill st, Tain.
His son Donald aged 34 lives with him, an ironmonger, and also a house keeper called Annie McGregor
Death record 1904:
John Ross died at 11:30am, 17th March 1904 at no.2 Esther Place in Tain, aged 80, a retired Carpenter and widower of Helen Ross. His Father was George Ross, a Crofter, and his mother was Jane Murray. He died from 'Mitral(?) disease regular action for 9 months' (Rheumatic heart disease I think).
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