Ross John

Ross John

Male 1823 - 1904

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  • Born  4 Sep 1823  Tain, Rosshire Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Died  17 Mar 1904  Tain, Rosshire Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I261  My Genealogy
    Last Modified  31 Aug 2013 

    Father  Ross George,   b. 1790, Tain, Rosshire Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1851, Dornoch, Sutherland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  Murray Jane,   b. 25 Sep 1794,   d. 13 Mar 1843, Dornoch, Sutherland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F110  Group Sheet

    Family  MacKay Helen,   b. 1833, Rogart, scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 May 1888, Tain, Rosshire Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  27 Jun 1857  Free Church in Rogart, Sutherland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    >1. Ross Christina,   b. 27 Jun 1858, Tain, Rosshire Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aug 1930, Dornoch, Sutherland Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Ross George,   b. 1861
     3. Ross Donald
    Last Modified  25 Nov 2012 
    Family ID  F106  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 4 Sep 1823 - Tain, Rosshire Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 27 Jun 1857 - Free Church in Rogart, Sutherland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 17 Mar 1904 - Tain, Rosshire Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos

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    High Street Tain looking east. This William Smith photo may be from the early 1900's
    High Street Tain looking east. This William Smith photo may be from the early 1900's
    woodworking tools from 18th century
    woodworking tools from 18th century
    'The Workshop'
    'The Workshop'
    "This is the joiner's shop, a fascinating place with shadowy corners, the bewitching fitments of a carpenter's bench, a crisp carpet of shavings for small feet to scuffle and struggle through, and in invigorating smell of pine chips in the air.
    Here are made homely chairs and tables, clogs and pattens, yokes for milk pales, chests for bride-linen, cradles and innumerable other articles."
    Raphael Tuck - Oilette - Scottish Life and Character Series. Tuck startd selling postcards in London in 1866. The oilette series started in 1903.



    A procession down Tain High Street to mark Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee in 1897
    A procession down Tain High Street to mark Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee in 1897
    from Tain museum website
    1857 Marriage record, John ross and Helen MacKay, Parish of Rogart
    1857 Marriage record, John ross and Helen MacKay, Parish of Rogart
    On 26th June, 1857, John Ross from Tain, aged 33, a House Carpenter, and Helen Kackay from Muir(?) Rogart, aged 29, a Dressmaker, were married.
    John's parents are recorded as George Ross, Tenant (deceased) and Jane Ross, maiden name Murray.
    Helen's parents are recorded as William MacKay, Merchant, and Christy MacKay, maiden name MacLeod.

    1823 birth record for John Ross
    1823 birth record for John Ross
    Tain 4th Sept 1823. By which date George Ross at Fendum [Fendom is an area about 2 miles from Tain], had by his wife Jane Murray a son born to him lawfully begot and was baptised on the 7th day before the congregation named John.

  • Notes 
    • John was born to a crofter father, but he didn't follow his father into subsistence farming, and instead learnt a trade, Carpentry. This was probably a step upwards in terms of social mobility in the family. He married Helen, a dressmaker and daughter of a local merchant, moved to the local town of Tain a couple of miles away from where he grew up, and lived there for the rest of his life as a house carpenter, and brought up his family. He was a widower for the last 16 years of his life, and had two lodgers recorded as living with him in the 1891 census.

      In 1747 R. Campbell described the work of a house carpenter as follows:

      "The carpenter is employed in the wooden-work from the foundation to the top.... In brick-works he places bearers, where the chief weight of the building lies. He lays the joists, girders, and rafters in flooring, and when the outward case is built, he puts on the roof and prepares it for the slater... Strength is the chief of his study, and to dispose his work in such a manner as that what is designed for the support of a building may not, by its weight, overturn it".

      In contrast, a joiner:

      "...is employed in making doors, laying floors, preparing the ceiling for the plaisterer to nail his laths on; in dividing the house with partitions, and wainscoting the several apartments. As a joiner's work requires a nicer hand, and a greater taste in ornament, his business requries that he should be acquainted with geometry and mensuration."
      source: http://www.londonlives.org/static/CarpentersCompany.jsp


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      Birth record 1823:
      Tain 4th Sept 1823. By which date George Ross at Fendum [Fendom is an area about 2 miles from Tain], had by his wife Jane Murray a son born to him lawfully begot and was baptised on the 7th day before the congregation named John.

      1857 Marriage record, Parish of Rogart:
      On 26th June, 1857, John Ross from Tain, aged 33, a House Carpenter, and Helen Kackay from Muir(?) Rogart, aged 29, a Dressmaker, were married.
      John's parents are recorded as George Ross, Tenant (deceased) and Jane Ross, maiden name Murray.
      Helen's parents are recorded as William MacKay, Merchant, and Christy MacKay, maiden name MacLeod.

      1861 Census:
      John Ross (born Tain, Rosshire) is 35 yrs old, occuption 'Carpenter (Journeyman)'. He lives with his wife Helen Ross (born Rogal Sutherland) agd 29 in Haffor(?) st in Tain. Also there are daughter Christina aged 2 and son George aged 1 month

      1871 Census:
      John Ross (born Tain Rosshire) aged 43, occupation Carpenter, is living in Hill st, Tain with his wife Hellen (born Rogart, Sutherland) aged 38. their children are Christina 12, George 11, John 8, William 6, Donald 4, alexander 1.

      1891 Census:
      John Ross, aged 64, a widower and Carpenter (House), lives at Burnside Cottage in Hill st, Tain.
      Also lliving with him are William his son aged 26, unmarried, a watchmaker; Donald his son aged 24 an assistant ironmonger, a male boarder who is an assistant watchmaker and female servant (she is a gentlemans servant so not a servant of the house, must be another boarder).

      Death record 1904:
      John Ross died at 11:30am, 17th March 1904 at no.2 Esther Place in Tain, aged 80, a retired Carpenter and widower of Helen Ross. His Father was George Ross, a Crofter, and his mother was Jane Murray. He died from 'Mitral(?) disease regular action for 9 months' (Rheumatic heart disease I think).


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